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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://blog.archny.org/index.php/gratitude-to-the-catholic-league/comment-page-1/#comment-45153</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned of this post on another blog. Amazing! The archbishop of New York is condoning this verbal attack against a 16-year-old girl who has already suffered the trauma of assault. Not so amazing, perhaps, considering the church&#039;s usual nasty attitude toward victims of clergy abuse, but surprising that you&#039;re condoning Donahue&#039;s press release so openly. 

Shaking my head. Sick, sick, sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned of this post on another blog. Amazing! The archbishop of New York is condoning this verbal attack against a 16-year-old girl who has already suffered the trauma of assault. Not so amazing, perhaps, considering the church&#8217;s usual nasty attitude toward victims of clergy abuse, but surprising that you&#8217;re condoning Donahue&#8217;s press release so openly. </p>
<p>Shaking my head. Sick, sick, sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://blog.archny.org/index.php/gratitude-to-the-catholic-league/comment-page-1/#comment-31732</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 23:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Excellency:

SNAP  and the Voice of the Faithful will stop at nothing in their efforts to destroy the Church. An eighty-seven year old man? Please, a man of this age, even if guilty as charged, would more than likely be guilty of nothing more than what is known as &#039;disinhibition&quot; in the elderly. Disinhibition is associated with various forms of dementia and very, very common. Talk to any medical professional who works in a nursing  home. Have we lost all common sense?

You are a bright light in the darkness, Bishop Dolan. We stand with you. Oh, and God Bless Bill Donohue and the Catholic League!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Excellency:</p>
<p>SNAP  and the Voice of the Faithful will stop at nothing in their efforts to destroy the Church. An eighty-seven year old man? Please, a man of this age, even if guilty as charged, would more than likely be guilty of nothing more than what is known as &#8216;disinhibition&#8221; in the elderly. Disinhibition is associated with various forms of dementia and very, very common. Talk to any medical professional who works in a nursing  home. Have we lost all common sense?</p>
<p>You are a bright light in the darkness, Bishop Dolan. We stand with you. Oh, and God Bless Bill Donohue and the Catholic League!</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Schwalbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Schwalbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant HER story has many holes...oops...sorry..correction from earlier comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant HER story has many holes&#8230;oops&#8230;sorry..correction from earlier comment</p>
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		<title>By: Paul J Racine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul J Racine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Mr Donahue&#039;s response is not on the level of a legal brief, it is a welcome counter balance to the media&#039;s implied guilt of any priest or bishop accused of wrong doing. A response by the Church with anything other than a &quot;mea culpa&quot;, is often portrayed by the media as arrogant and heartless. 

I am grateful to Mr Donohue for pointing out examples of the excesses and inaccuracies of the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Mr Donahue&#8217;s response is not on the level of a legal brief, it is a welcome counter balance to the media&#8217;s implied guilt of any priest or bishop accused of wrong doing. A response by the Church with anything other than a &#8220;mea culpa&#8221;, is often portrayed by the media as arrogant and heartless. </p>
<p>I am grateful to Mr Donohue for pointing out examples of the excesses and inaccuracies of the media.</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The young girl did the right thing and reported it to the police. If it&#039;s a false claim he&#039;ll have his day in court as well as she. &quot;Phony victims group&quot; ?  If only there was not a need for groups like Snap or Bishops Accountability. They should be receiving Dolan&#039;s graditude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The young girl did the right thing and reported it to the police. If it&#8217;s a false claim he&#8217;ll have his day in court as well as she. &#8220;Phony victims group&#8221; ?  If only there was not a need for groups like Snap or Bishops Accountability. They should be receiving Dolan&#8217;s graditude.</p>
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		<title>By: JeannieGuzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeannieGuzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it were not for SNAP, and the bravery of its members, thousands of cases of Priest Pedophilia and Ephibophilia wouldn&#039;t have been brought to the publics attention in not only the USA but in foreign countries, as well.  The Criminal Coverups of Abuse by not so sainted, bishops, archbishops and Cardinals, including members of the Vatican, have been PROVEN to be systemic and universal! To call SNAP, &quot;A Phony Victims&#039; Group,&quot; just shows how much the Hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church, as well as Bill Donohue, are in denial regarding the damage that Clerical Pedophiles have done to thousands of victims as well as to the credibility of the Catholic Church.  It was NOT easy for early members of SNAP to come forward with their allegations of abuse, because the Catholic Church intimidated them (and often their families) on every level possible.  Was this &quot;Christ-like behavior?&quot;  I think not, but neither are acts of Pedophilia and institutional, Criminal Coverups!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were not for SNAP, and the bravery of its members, thousands of cases of Priest Pedophilia and Ephibophilia wouldn&#8217;t have been brought to the publics attention in not only the USA but in foreign countries, as well.  The Criminal Coverups of Abuse by not so sainted, bishops, archbishops and Cardinals, including members of the Vatican, have been PROVEN to be systemic and universal! To call SNAP, &#8220;A Phony Victims&#8217; Group,&#8221; just shows how much the Hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church, as well as Bill Donohue, are in denial regarding the damage that Clerical Pedophiles have done to thousands of victims as well as to the credibility of the Catholic Church.  It was NOT easy for early members of SNAP to come forward with their allegations of abuse, because the Catholic Church intimidated them (and often their families) on every level possible.  Was this &#8220;Christ-like behavior?&#8221;  I think not, but neither are acts of Pedophilia and institutional, Criminal Coverups!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SNAP is not a \phony\  victims group!  SNAP and the other victims group \Voice of the Faithful\ are the only two victims group I am aware of and they are lay led which probably gripes Mr. Donohue.  God bless them for their hard work and having their hearts in the right place.  What&#039;s more...pedophile might not be the correct  psychological name for one who sexually abuses teenagers. The ones who abuse teens are called ephebophiles.  But it matters little what they are called.  They commit the same crimes on children (and teens are children) and the horrible consequences are the same in children of any age.  In fact some psychologists maintain teenage boys are the most often sickened by abuse as they are given a reason by the abuse to question  their sexual identity.  Lay off, Mr. Donohue.  Let people who are trying to help society and the church come to grips with these criminals and  do their holy work.   Andy Tracy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SNAP is not a \phony\  victims group!  SNAP and the other victims group \Voice of the Faithful\ are the only two victims group I am aware of and they are lay led which probably gripes Mr. Donohue.  God bless them for their hard work and having their hearts in the right place.  What&#8217;s more&#8230;pedophile might not be the correct  psychological name for one who sexually abuses teenagers. The ones who abuse teens are called ephebophiles.  But it matters little what they are called.  They commit the same crimes on children (and teens are children) and the horrible consequences are the same in children of any age.  In fact some psychologists maintain teenage boys are the most often sickened by abuse as they are given a reason by the abuse to question  their sexual identity.  Lay off, Mr. Donohue.  Let people who are trying to help society and the church come to grips with these criminals and  do their holy work.   Andy Tracy</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Gallagher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Excellency,
By posting Donahue&#039;s remarks and expressing your gratitude for them, you are clearly endorsing them, right? While I, as you certainly do also, presume the innocence of this priest until proven guilty, there are some troubling remarks in the statement you have endorsed:

&quot;Then she voluntarily decided to go back to work on Tuesday, where she now claims she was wrongly touched for the third time. &quot; - If you are claiming this is a defense of the priest in question, you have little knowledge of the dynamics of power, fear, and maturity.

&quot;...the phony victims’ group, SNAP&quot;.  Even if SNAP is directed by opportunistic lawyers, where would the victims be without their help? Are you seriously claiming that the Church&#039;s response would be the same without the threat of huge settlements?

&quot;When Cardinal Edward Egan, Dolan’s predecessor, learned of the alleged misconduct by Harris—which supposedly happened 30 years earlier—he notified the D.A.’s office.&quot; While defending Egan, Donahue can&#039;t help being cynical about the length of time between alleged abuse and public exposure. This is another example of your willful ignorance of the experience of victims, presuming you agree.

&quot;But neither of the two cases involved pedophilia: in both instances, the alleged victims were teenagers.&quot; PLEASE stop digging the Church into this hole! As a Catholic this hairsplitting on this point by the hierarchy&#039;s staunchest defenders is embarrassing in the extreme. Can you imagine the response you&#039;d get, as a bishop, if you went on TV and tried to make the distinction between child rape and teenager rape??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Excellency,<br />
By posting Donahue&#8217;s remarks and expressing your gratitude for them, you are clearly endorsing them, right? While I, as you certainly do also, presume the innocence of this priest until proven guilty, there are some troubling remarks in the statement you have endorsed:</p>
<p>&#8220;Then she voluntarily decided to go back to work on Tuesday, where she now claims she was wrongly touched for the third time. &#8221; &#8211; If you are claiming this is a defense of the priest in question, you have little knowledge of the dynamics of power, fear, and maturity.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the phony victims’ group, SNAP&#8221;.  Even if SNAP is directed by opportunistic lawyers, where would the victims be without their help? Are you seriously claiming that the Church&#8217;s response would be the same without the threat of huge settlements?</p>
<p>&#8220;When Cardinal Edward Egan, Dolan’s predecessor, learned of the alleged misconduct by Harris—which supposedly happened 30 years earlier—he notified the D.A.’s office.&#8221; While defending Egan, Donahue can&#8217;t help being cynical about the length of time between alleged abuse and public exposure. This is another example of your willful ignorance of the experience of victims, presuming you agree.</p>
<p>&#8220;But neither of the two cases involved pedophilia: in both instances, the alleged victims were teenagers.&#8221; PLEASE stop digging the Church into this hole! As a Catholic this hairsplitting on this point by the hierarchy&#8217;s staunchest defenders is embarrassing in the extreme. Can you imagine the response you&#8217;d get, as a bishop, if you went on TV and tried to make the distinction between child rape and teenager rape??</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo-NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorenzo-NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have come to expect these angry, &quot;Bowery Boys&quot; kind of outbursts from  Bill Donahue.  No wonder the media loves to trot him out when it needs a psuedo Catholic spokesperson.  He never fails to put on a good show, with overblown rhetoric,  loudmouth vitriol, inappropriate attacks and insensitive remarks.  He does more harm to the Church&#039;s image everytime he opens his trap.  
So no one should be surprised that Bulldog Bill has fired off another volley of insult and mindless defense of the indefensible.  But why is the Archdiocese of NY putting Donahue&#039;s  press release on its own  website under Archbishop Dolan&#039;s picture?  Being in league with the League damages whatever efforts the Church  makes to convince victims  and everyone else that it really cares about them.  SNAP is not a &quot;phony victims group.&quot; They are angry and with good reason.  Dolan seems to be showing his true colors with his  smiling face atop this embarasing but typical Catholic League press release.  If Dolan had real compassion for victims of clergy sexual abuse, he would prudently distance himself from &quot;Bush&quot; League Bill  (no offense to the former presidenti implied).
Shame on Donahue goes without saying, but now it&#039;s shame on Dolan as well.
Dolan calls his blog the &quot;The Gospel in the Digital Age.&quot;  It&#039;s his gospel not Jesus&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have come to expect these angry, &#8220;Bowery Boys&#8221; kind of outbursts from  Bill Donahue.  No wonder the media loves to trot him out when it needs a psuedo Catholic spokesperson.  He never fails to put on a good show, with overblown rhetoric,  loudmouth vitriol, inappropriate attacks and insensitive remarks.  He does more harm to the Church&#8217;s image everytime he opens his trap.<br />
So no one should be surprised that Bulldog Bill has fired off another volley of insult and mindless defense of the indefensible.  But why is the Archdiocese of NY putting Donahue&#8217;s  press release on its own  website under Archbishop Dolan&#8217;s picture?  Being in league with the League damages whatever efforts the Church  makes to convince victims  and everyone else that it really cares about them.  SNAP is not a &#8220;phony victims group.&#8221; They are angry and with good reason.  Dolan seems to be showing his true colors with his  smiling face atop this embarasing but typical Catholic League press release.  If Dolan had real compassion for victims of clergy sexual abuse, he would prudently distance himself from &#8220;Bush&#8221; League Bill  (no offense to the former presidenti implied).<br />
Shame on Donahue goes without saying, but now it&#8217;s shame on Dolan as well.<br />
Dolan calls his blog the &#8220;The Gospel in the Digital Age.&#8221;  It&#8217;s his gospel not Jesus&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: drwho13</title>
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		<dc:creator>drwho13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;According to SNAP’s press release today, these cases also show the Church’s tolerance of pedophilia. But neither of the two cases involved pedophilia: in both instances, the alleged victims were teenagers.&quot;

You have to be kidding; &#039;teenagers,&#039; does the word &#039;minor&#039; mean anything to you?  Legally speaking there is a distinction, but if it involves a minor teenager it&#039;s still a crime.

A Church that makes such distinctions is unsuited to be a moral compass for anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;According to SNAP’s press release today, these cases also show the Church’s tolerance of pedophilia. But neither of the two cases involved pedophilia: in both instances, the alleged victims were teenagers.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have to be kidding; &#8216;teenagers,&#8217; does the word &#8216;minor&#8217; mean anything to you?  Legally speaking there is a distinction, but if it involves a minor teenager it&#8217;s still a crime.</p>
<p>A Church that makes such distinctions is unsuited to be a moral compass for anyone.</p>
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