Comments on: Insight from Professor Robert George http://blog.archny.org/index.php/insight-from-professor-robert-george/ Sun, 19 May 2013 11:55:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Joseph Reciniello http://blog.archny.org/index.php/insight-from-professor-robert-george/comment-page-1/#comment-26924 Joseph Reciniello Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:04:41 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1358#comment-26924 Charles Carroll – Don’t give up my friend Even with all the madness (and I am a realist – there is madness), the Catholic Church is still the only Church Jesus founded. The sacraments are still the vehicles of graces we need, even if some of the clergy are not holding up their end. The truth is still the truth contained in the teachings of the Catholic Church and while we sinners (including the clergy) seem to mess things up, that does not change what we all must strive to be and more importantly do. Here is some friendly advice, volunteer with a religious order that is very faithful to the Magisterium and lives the gospel by their actions (not just their words). For example, the Missionaries of Charity, I believe they have a house in the Philadelphia area. It will refresh your heart. It does mine; I stay very close to the MC Sisters in New York. Look to Our Lady too, for she is so pure, so immaculate. In addition, every December, I run a mission trip to serve the poor in Calcutta. This will be our 5th year going. Why don’t you come along? Seriously consider it. The trip sounds a lot harder then it really is. All you need is a big heart. A good priest will be leading us this year from the NYC area, Fr. Glenn Sudano, C.F.R. (Franciscan Friars of the Renewal). By the way, the CFR’s are another new order within the Church that are very solid. Here is some info on the trip Immaculate Heart Mission - NYC Serving the Poorest of the Poor www.immaculateheartmission.org Please pray for me Charles and I will pray the rosary for you Your brother in Christ Joe Charles Carroll – Don’t give up my friend

Even with all the madness (and I am a realist – there is madness), the Catholic Church is still the only Church Jesus founded. The sacraments are still the vehicles of graces we need, even if some of the clergy are not holding up their end. The truth is still the truth contained in the teachings of the Catholic Church and while we sinners (including the clergy) seem to mess things up, that does not change what we all must strive to be and more importantly do.

Here is some friendly advice, volunteer with a religious order that is very faithful to the Magisterium and lives the gospel by their actions (not just their words). For example, the Missionaries of Charity, I believe they have a house in the Philadelphia area. It will refresh your heart. It does mine; I stay very close to the MC Sisters in New York.

Look to Our Lady too, for she is so pure, so immaculate.

In addition, every December, I run a mission trip to serve the poor in Calcutta. This will be our 5th year going. Why don’t you come along? Seriously consider it. The trip sounds a lot harder then it really is. All you need is a big heart. A good priest will be leading us this year from the NYC area, Fr. Glenn Sudano, C.F.R. (Franciscan Friars of the Renewal). By the way, the CFR’s are another new order within the Church that are very solid.

Here is some info on the trip

Immaculate Heart Mission – NYC
Serving the Poorest of the Poor
http://www.immaculateheartmission.org

Please pray for me Charles and I will pray the rosary for you

Your brother in Christ
Joe

]]> By: Irene http://blog.archny.org/index.php/insight-from-professor-robert-george/comment-page-1/#comment-26911 Irene Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:28:05 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1358#comment-26911 I also find it very contradictory that often those who most strongly assert that total adherence to Catholic teaching is required at all times, those same people are quite comfortable publicly chastising bishops for their actions/inactions. I' m pretty sure complying with the former precludes engaging in the latter. I also find it very contradictory that often those who most strongly assert that total adherence to Catholic teaching is required at all times, those same people are quite comfortable publicly chastising bishops for their actions/inactions. I’ m pretty sure complying with the former precludes engaging in the latter.

]]> By: john http://blog.archny.org/index.php/insight-from-professor-robert-george/comment-page-1/#comment-26880 john Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:31:28 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1358#comment-26880 Where were you last year when the New York legislature adopted no-fault divorce? I don't remember such an outcry. Or are you only going after minorities? Where were you last year when the New York legislature adopted no-fault divorce? I don’t remember such an outcry. Or are you only going after minorities?

]]> By: charles carroll http://blog.archny.org/index.php/insight-from-professor-robert-george/comment-page-1/#comment-26864 charles carroll Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:00:26 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1358#comment-26864 Joe, Oh Yes, I too was once young and fresh from a Jesuit University and full of vim and vigor for the Faith. And then, reality set in with indictments and denials and lies. Here in Philadelphia we have THREE Grand Jury Reports detailing the nasty behavior of the clergy and the bishops. And after much lip service from Rome only yesterday we get this: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0714/1224300712017.html So, yes, sorry, but the bishops have lost their voice. Maybe when a generation passes with no abuse claims the church can speak again. But until then, no one is listening. New York has not had a Man of God on Fifth Avenue since Cardinal Cooke. When Dolan makes his appearance on Saturday with Ruben Diaz he will just be perpetuating the hate of O'Conner and Eagan. Dirty Hands. Putrid Lips. No one is listening. Joe, Oh Yes, I too was once young and fresh from a Jesuit University and full of vim and vigor for the Faith. And then, reality set in with indictments and denials and lies. Here in Philadelphia we have THREE Grand Jury Reports detailing the nasty behavior of the clergy and the bishops. And after much lip service from Rome only yesterday we get this:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0714/1224300712017.html

So, yes, sorry, but the bishops have lost their voice. Maybe when a generation passes with no abuse claims the church can speak again. But until then, no one is listening.

New York has not had a Man of God on Fifth Avenue since Cardinal Cooke. When Dolan makes his appearance on Saturday with Ruben Diaz he will just be perpetuating the hate of O’Conner and Eagan. Dirty Hands. Putrid Lips. No one is listening.

]]> By: Joanne http://blog.archny.org/index.php/insight-from-professor-robert-george/comment-page-1/#comment-26824 Joanne Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:08:02 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1358#comment-26824 I too believe that our Bishops and priests need to be more vocal in denouncing that wehich is contrary to Catholic teachings. The sooner the better! From The Blaze:Four Catholic Charities regional groups have been granted the right continue their adoption and foster program services in Illinois for at least another month thanks to Judge John Schmidt‘s decision to refuse allowing the state to cut funds based off the organization’s resistance to placing children with gay and unwed couples. Chicago Tribune:------------now this is only a stay of decision, gays are fighting this. I too believe that our Bishops and priests need to be more vocal in denouncing that wehich is contrary to Catholic teachings. The sooner the better! From The Blaze:Four Catholic Charities regional groups have been granted the right continue their adoption and foster program services in Illinois for at least another month thanks to Judge John Schmidt‘s decision to refuse allowing the state to cut funds based off the organization’s resistance to placing children with gay and unwed couples. Chicago Tribune:————now this is only a stay of decision, gays are fighting this.

]]> By: Joseph Reciniello http://blog.archny.org/index.php/insight-from-professor-robert-george/comment-page-1/#comment-26810 Joseph Reciniello Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:53:38 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1358#comment-26810 Renee – sorry about that, I made a typo, I meant tenet not “tenants” (meaning a religious doctrine / principle, or a belief) 8-) Charles – Re-read what Edward N. Peters, JD, JCD, in my post above wrote. It will give you some clarification with regard to your statements and claims. Whether you agree with them or not, does not change the facts. As to your conclusion, “no one is listening”. That simply is not true and more importantly; God is silently watching and knows who is listening and who is not. That goes for the laity and the clergy alike. Renee – sorry about that, I made a typo, I meant tenet not “tenants” (meaning a religious doctrine / principle, or a belief)

8-)

Charles – Re-read what Edward N. Peters, JD, JCD, in my post above wrote. It will give you some clarification with regard to your statements and claims. Whether you agree with them or not, does not change the facts.

As to your conclusion, “no one is listening”. That simply is not true and more importantly; God is silently watching and knows who is listening and who is not. That goes for the laity and the clergy alike.

]]> By: Brian Cook http://blog.archny.org/index.php/insight-from-professor-robert-george/comment-page-1/#comment-26808 Brian Cook Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:48:15 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1358#comment-26808 Your excellency, The very detailed criticisms against you keep piling up in this 'blog. I still continue to hope that you will address them before they become too massive in volume. I really want to help you. Your excellency,

The very detailed criticisms against you keep piling up in this ‘blog. I still continue to hope that you will address them before they become too massive in volume. I really want to help you.

]]> By: MDomke http://blog.archny.org/index.php/insight-from-professor-robert-george/comment-page-1/#comment-26770 MDomke Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:24:34 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1358#comment-26770 Archbishop, I have a hard time understanding what you mean by imposing and proposing, these people have been oppressed since the beginning of time, why not welcome them with open arms into Christ's love, the most oppressed person of all time. Christ has a plan for them as much as He has a plan for us: it's tolerance, non-violent, forgiving, and humble. The salvation isn't a game, it is a truth, and the homosexuals who find salvation in the Catholic Church are not to be underestimated, they are the purest form of beauty and benevolence that the Lord has given, those that despise the Church will have to find their own way. But, I refuse to believe that your proposition to enter the Catholic faith does not include these same people that care nothing but for the poor, the helpless and the needy. The time spent denying these well adjusted advocates has lasted too long. They do not wish to be bathed in the Catholic Religion's thousand year experience of Marriage, they wish to be given a chance to love without an overbearing presence denying them. I am a devout Catholic and I hope that my feelings on this matter does not alieanate me. God Bless you always, Michael Domke Archbishop,
I have a hard time understanding what you mean by imposing and proposing, these people have been oppressed since the beginning of time, why not welcome them with open arms into Christ’s love, the most oppressed person of all time. Christ has a plan for them as much as He has a plan for us: it’s tolerance, non-violent, forgiving, and humble. The salvation isn’t a game, it is a truth, and the homosexuals who find salvation in the Catholic Church are not to be underestimated, they are the purest form of beauty and benevolence that the Lord has given, those that despise the Church will have to find their own way. But, I refuse to believe that your proposition to enter the Catholic faith does not include these same people that care nothing but for the poor, the helpless and the needy. The time spent denying these well adjusted advocates has lasted too long. They do not wish to be bathed in the Catholic Religion’s thousand year experience of Marriage, they wish to be given a chance to love without an overbearing presence denying them. I am a devout Catholic and I hope that my feelings on this matter does not alieanate me.
God Bless you always,
Michael Domke

]]> By: Abel http://blog.archny.org/index.php/insight-from-professor-robert-george/comment-page-1/#comment-26764 Abel Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:16:04 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1358#comment-26764 I believe that gays will do marriage BETTER, as a while, than straights have managed to do in the last 40 years or so. How sad the Church persists in demonizing gays. You really should beg Christ for forgiveness for what you are doing. I believe that gays will do marriage BETTER, as a while, than straights have managed to do in the last 40 years or so. How sad the Church persists in demonizing gays. You really should beg Christ for forgiveness for what you are doing.

]]> By: charles http://blog.archny.org/index.php/insight-from-professor-robert-george/comment-page-1/#comment-26757 charles Thu, 14 Jul 2011 02:36:36 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1358#comment-26757 Joe, Yes indeed I am a Catholic. And I know the Rules and the Canons, too. My point here, and in previous posts, is that the Archbishop, and his brother bishops throughout the world, has lost all credibility and moral authority owing to the child abuse scandal that occurred under their watch. Whether the Governor of NY receives the sacrament is between himself and the Lord and should be of little concern to you or me. Joe, please don't hold your breath for Archbishop Dolan to excommunicate the Governor. He won't. He can't - he has no authority anymore. No one is listening. Joe, Yes indeed I am a Catholic. And I know the Rules and the Canons, too. My point here, and in previous posts, is that the Archbishop, and his brother bishops throughout the world, has lost all credibility and moral authority owing to the child abuse scandal that occurred under their watch. Whether the Governor of NY receives the sacrament is between himself and the Lord and should be of little concern to you or me. Joe, please don’t hold your breath for Archbishop Dolan to excommunicate the Governor. He won’t. He can’t – he has no authority anymore. No one is listening.

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