Comments on: Letter to the President on the Sacredness of Marriage http://blog.archny.org/index.php/letter-to-the-president-on-the-sacredness-of-marriage/ Sun, 19 May 2013 11:55:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Charles J Murphy http://blog.archny.org/index.php/letter-to-the-president-on-the-sacredness-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-57601 Charles J Murphy Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:30:04 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1702#comment-57601 Archbishop, Marriage as a legal entity and marriage as a sacramental entity are different. When we say that the US Senate must confirm a nominee to the Supreme Court, we are not talking about sacramental confirmation. Sacramental marriage is the same as ever. Why do the bishops think that the state must adopt and enforce specific religious morality? Don't the bishops have first responsibility to teach in a motivating and inspiring way? I think the bishops realize that they have not sufficiently catechized Catholics. The gospel ought to be compelling in itself. Do not lament the darkness...bring in a light! The Roman Empire persecuted Christians and Christianity grew because of Christ. There is nothing preventing the same in our time. Let's not always blame secularism, relativism, etc. Sometimes you seem to seek an earthly kingdom and the approval of secular society. Christ, not Caesar. Archbishop,
Marriage as a legal entity and marriage as a sacramental entity are different.
When we say that the US Senate must confirm a nominee to the Supreme Court, we are not talking about sacramental confirmation. Sacramental marriage is the same as ever.

Why do the bishops think that the state must adopt and enforce specific religious morality? Don’t the bishops have first responsibility to teach in a motivating and inspiring way? I think the bishops realize that they have not sufficiently catechized Catholics. The gospel ought to be compelling in itself. Do not lament the darkness…bring in a light! The Roman Empire persecuted Christians and Christianity grew because of Christ. There is nothing preventing the same in our time. Let’s not always blame secularism, relativism, etc. Sometimes you seem to seek an earthly kingdom and the approval of secular society. Christ, not Caesar.

]]> By: tad http://blog.archny.org/index.php/letter-to-the-president-on-the-sacredness-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-57145 tad Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:24:51 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1702#comment-57145 Talk will not change the minds of our leaders; the US Bishops need to follow Our Blessed Mother's initiatives more closely. As St. Louis DeMonfort said, it is only through Mary that we can bring in the Reign of Christ. Mary is the key to our problems. We need to follow her. She has requested certain things at Fatima and in the approved apparitions of Our Lady of America. Please Archbishop, for all our sakes, follow her more closely, obey her requests! The darkness is growing, many are suffering. You can never be too Marian! We all need to consecrate ourselves and our nation to her. Bishops need to initiate the praying of the Rosary in our parishes. We need to process through our streets praying for our nation just as they did Portugal which saved them from a communist takeover. The shrine to Our Lady of America must be completed in the National Basilica of the Immaculate Conception. The bishop are too much about themselves and do rely on Mary and her Son enough. Talk will not change the minds of our leaders; the US Bishops need to follow Our Blessed Mother’s initiatives more closely. As St. Louis DeMonfort said, it is only through Mary that we can bring in the Reign of Christ. Mary is the key to our problems. We need to follow her. She has requested certain things at Fatima and in the approved apparitions of Our Lady of America. Please Archbishop, for all our sakes, follow her more closely, obey her requests! The darkness is growing, many are suffering. You can never be too Marian! We all need to consecrate ourselves and our nation to her. Bishops need to initiate the praying of the Rosary in our parishes. We need to process through our streets praying for our nation just as they did Portugal which saved them from a communist takeover. The shrine to Our Lady of America must be completed in the National Basilica of the Immaculate Conception. The bishop are too much about themselves and do rely on Mary and her Son enough.

]]> By: Bob http://blog.archny.org/index.php/letter-to-the-president-on-the-sacredness-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-53793 Bob Thu, 06 Oct 2011 17:46:42 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1702#comment-53793 Some of us are with you but a lot have quit the fight. Why? Because MANY bishops and clergy are silent or acting against you and their sad example has infected the Church. Strong medicine combined with strong examples of courage and conviction are needed. The enemy has breached the walls and we are in hand-to-hand fighting. Where are our leaders? Why do they speak with forked tongues, sometimes for and sometimes against church teachings? Yet, God is in charge and the Holy Spirit can renew and recharge those who have given up. We just need Faith. Come on Bishops! The troops will stop their retreat if you but raise the cross and call on God. We are fighting a battle but have forgotten that, thanks be to God, the war has been won. This is the time for all good Christians to man their posts of duty so they are found faithful at the end. Help us Lord! Some of us are with you but a lot have quit the fight. Why? Because MANY bishops and clergy are silent or acting against you and their sad example has infected the Church. Strong medicine combined with strong examples of courage and conviction are needed. The enemy has breached the walls and we are in hand-to-hand fighting. Where are our leaders? Why do they speak with forked tongues, sometimes for and sometimes against church teachings? Yet, God is in charge and the Holy Spirit can renew and recharge those who have given up. We just need Faith. Come on Bishops! The troops will stop their retreat if you but raise the cross and call on God. We are fighting a battle but have forgotten that, thanks be to God, the war has been won. This is the time for all good Christians to man their posts of duty so they are found faithful at the end. Help us Lord!

]]> By: D Maxwell http://blog.archny.org/index.php/letter-to-the-president-on-the-sacredness-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-53378 D Maxwell Thu, 06 Oct 2011 03:42:59 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1702#comment-53378 Dear Archbishop Dolan, I and my wife are cheering for you and the Catholic Church and fully support your letter to Our President concerning the sacredness of marriage. We as Catholics will certainly make our support known here in Montana and will continue to pray for other Bishops to stiffen their back bone and speak out forcefully on this issue. Dear Archbishop Dolan,

I and my wife are cheering for you and the Catholic Church and fully support your letter to Our President concerning the sacredness of marriage. We as Catholics will certainly make our support known here in Montana and will continue to pray for other Bishops to stiffen their back bone and speak out forcefully on this issue.

]]> By: John G. http://blog.archny.org/index.php/letter-to-the-president-on-the-sacredness-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-50207 John G. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:47:44 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1702#comment-50207 Dear Archbishop Dolan, As a follower of your blog, I learned about your September 20, 2011 letter, as President of the USCCB, to President Obama expressing the concern of the Bishops caused by certain of the Justice Department’s recent actions and their effect on the future “Mission” activities of the Institutional Catholic Church in the United States. I have not seen any other public reference to your September 20, 2011 letter in the periodicals that I read. I hope that you sent a copy to the heads of the following organizations for distribution to their memberships and placement on their websites: • The Catholic League; • The Knights of Columbus; • The Ancient Order of Hibernians; • The Catholic Lawyers of America; • The American Association of the Knights of Malta; • The American Lieutenancy of the Knights of the Holy Sepulchre. The wider the distribution is, the more effective the message may be. Respectfully, John Dear Archbishop Dolan,

As a follower of your blog, I learned about your September 20, 2011 letter, as President of the USCCB, to President Obama expressing the concern of the Bishops caused by certain of the Justice Department’s recent actions and their effect on the future “Mission” activities of the Institutional Catholic Church in the United States.

I have not seen any other public reference to your September 20, 2011 letter in the periodicals that I read. I hope that you sent a copy to the heads of the following organizations for distribution to their memberships and placement on their websites:

• The Catholic League;
• The Knights of Columbus;
• The Ancient Order of Hibernians;
• The Catholic Lawyers of America;
• The American Association of the Knights of Malta;
• The American Lieutenancy of the Knights of the Holy Sepulchre.

The wider the distribution is, the more effective the message may be.

Respectfully,

John

]]> By: Rose http://blog.archny.org/index.php/letter-to-the-president-on-the-sacredness-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-48088 Rose Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:40:48 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1702#comment-48088 Sorry, your excellency, but you need to walk the walk, not just talk the talk. I saw you on an interview with Raymond Arroyo right after the Albany gay marriage fiasco. I was very disappointed in your wishy washy answer to him about giving communion to pro abort and pro sodomy politicians. You are a bishop and you need to follow canon law. You are the pres. Of the USCCB for heaven's sake. Show some real leadership, please. Now is the time! Sorry, your excellency, but you need to walk the walk, not just talk the talk. I saw you on an interview with Raymond Arroyo right after the Albany gay marriage fiasco. I was very disappointed in your wishy washy answer to him about giving communion to pro abort and pro sodomy politicians. You are a bishop and you need to follow canon law. You are the pres. Of the USCCB for heaven’s sake. Show some real leadership, please. Now is the time!

]]> By: Mary http://blog.archny.org/index.php/letter-to-the-president-on-the-sacredness-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-47984 Mary Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:27:09 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1702#comment-47984 DBA: I'd like to withdraw my previous sarcasm about cc'ing Governor Cuomo. This is my comment: Never in my lifetime or in our nation's history have we faced a conflict between our church and the government such as this. I stand completely behind the bishops. But your phrasing raises a question that merits discussion here. Exactly what does a “national conflict between Church and State of enormous proportions” look like when played out in the United States of America? And how will ordinary pewsitters recognize and stand with a persecuted Church? DBA: I’d like to withdraw my previous sarcasm about cc’ing Governor Cuomo. This is my comment:

Never in my lifetime or in our nation’s history have we faced a conflict between our church and the government such as this. I stand completely behind the bishops.

But your phrasing raises a question that merits discussion here. Exactly what does a “national conflict between Church and State of enormous proportions” look like when played out in the United States of America? And how will ordinary pewsitters recognize and stand with a persecuted Church?

]]> By: Manny http://blog.archny.org/index.php/letter-to-the-president-on-the-sacredness-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-47662 Manny Mon, 26 Sep 2011 01:54:21 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1702#comment-47662 Bishop Dolan I'm with Jane. I was greatly disappointed with the Church and you in particular on the gay marriage debate in New York. I hope your letter to the President carries weight, but really after we were steam rolled in New York why should any politician worry about the catholic vote? Peace be with you. Bishop Dolan

I’m with Jane. I was greatly disappointed with the Church and you in particular on the gay marriage debate in New York. I hope your letter to the President carries weight, but really after we were steam rolled in New York why should any politician worry about the catholic vote? Peace be with you.

]]> By: Stephen C http://blog.archny.org/index.php/letter-to-the-president-on-the-sacredness-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-47198 Stephen C Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:01:03 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1702#comment-47198 Jane, don't attack His Excellency, please. You have no idea if his or other prelates' presence would have changed the vote. How much better off would we be if more laity chose to pray for our clergy instead of attacking them in comboxes... Jane, don’t attack His Excellency, please. You have no idea if his or other prelates’ presence would have changed the vote. How much better off would we be if more laity chose to pray for our clergy instead of attacking them in comboxes…

]]> By: Tom T http://blog.archny.org/index.php/letter-to-the-president-on-the-sacredness-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-47129 Tom T Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:14:20 +0000 http://blog.archny.org/?p=1702#comment-47129 Would this be the same USCCB that sent out an article that is appearing in diocesan newspapers across the country presenting Labor Secretary Hilda Solis as a model Catholic politician? You forgot to mention her record while serving as a congresswoman from California of uncompromising support of legalized abortion where she even opposed restrictions on partial birth-abortion. Some organization you run there Archbishop Dolan. A wonderful example of strong Catholic leadership in defense of Church teaching. Pax Would this be the same USCCB that sent out an article that is appearing in diocesan newspapers across the country presenting Labor Secretary Hilda Solis as a model Catholic politician? You forgot to mention her record while serving as a congresswoman from California of uncompromising support of legalized abortion where she even opposed restrictions on partial birth-abortion. Some organization you run there Archbishop Dolan. A wonderful example of strong Catholic leadership in defense of Church teaching. Pax

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